Oh how many times I get asked, "Who is your publisher?"
Or, "Oh, so you're self-published?" (With a little hesitation on whether or not they should trust another word that comes out of my mouth) I usually just say yes because I know the people are not wanting to stick around to actually hear the explanation of why NO, I am not Traditionally published, and NO I am no longer claiming to be a self-published author. I've left those two stigmas behind and have moved on and developed into an Indie Author. (Hear the choir singing, Hallelujah!) But what does being an Indie Author mean? What does it matter? Isn't it still self-published? Well, allow me to elaborate for you folks. :) I'll start with the most popular term: Traditional Publishing. What does this mean? These are your big boys... the Simon and Schuester, Berkley, Penguin, Macmillan, etc. These are traditional publishing houses that require you to submit your manuscript, via a literary agent, to their company, and then they tell you 'yay' or 'nay.' Have I tried this? Yes. Did I enjoy the process? Yes and no. Why was I not picked up by a traditional publisher? I can't really give you an exact answer really. But what I can tell you is that I have received the flat out "no" from some companies. But I have also received some incredible feedback from some as well. I've received offers of resubmission once I took into account certain changes... so why did I not do this? Why did I "give up"? For starters, I didn't really give up. I just decided I was paying way too much for middle men, when I sort of have that "go-getter" personality. I could be doing this myself! Why do I need to pay someone to speak for me?! Unfortunately that's how Traditional Publishing operates. So I said, "See ya later! I'll try this on my own. Thanks for the feedback." So I did. Next option: Self- Publishing What does this mean? These are companies like AuthorHouse, Frieman Press, Trafford, etc. These are companies that offer publishing packages that range from around $400-$6,000 or more depending on what you want. These packages offer the basics of standard publishing: ISBN, Copyright, Designing/Formatting, Printing, Listing with retail sites. Everything else can be bought at an extra cost... such as: Marketing materials, Editing/Proofing, Expanded Distribution, etc. Everything comes at a cost and your royalties are slim to none. I know this... because my three children's books are through AuthorHouse. Not only did I go through this process once, but three times. I'm pretty familiar with it. I learned what I liked, what I did not like, what I needed, what I did not need... etc. For a first time author, I recommend this route, just because it gets your feet wet and allows you to learn the business. It allows you to learn what you are capable of as well. So that the next go around, you know what to ask for and decline. However, do not expect to make tons of money via this method. You pay for all those middlemen. Next option: Indie Publishing (Independent) What does this mean? Though similar to Self-Publishing there is one bigger factor... One bigger person involved. This is you. You are your own publisher. You don't have one. On the inside cover of your book it says: YOU. :) It's pretty awesome. But what does it mean to publish independently? Well, you have a company you go through for creating your book and printing: Ex. CreateSpace, Smashwords or IngramSpark, etc. These companies provide you with a basic set up: Upload your manuscript. Upload your cover. Upload your ISBN and bam we put this book together how you tell us to. The author has complete control on the final product. I hired my own beta-readers. I hired my own editors. I hired my own cover artist. I chose how big my book is. I chose glossy or matte finish. I chose page color. I chose price. I chose my distribution channels. I chose my formats. The point: I CHOSE EVERYTHING. Now what about marketing? It's all up to you. Which some people find quite daunting... but for me, that was one of my biggest complaints with AuthorHouse... they did not ask my opinion on anything, they sent me the standard marketing package at a whopping $1500, and I hated all of it. In fact, I did not send anything out because I was so embarrassed by the product I was given! For Indie Authors, you choose who you would like to design your marketing materials, whether it be you or someone else. You control what products you want, what they say, how they look, etc. I LOVE THIS! This is the fun stuff! (Other than the book part, duh) I love my marketing for The Unfading Lands, because it is EXACTLY how I imagined it... I hired a graphic designer and I was able to say 'yay' or 'nay' on designs and projects. On top of having control over everything and doing everything yourself, you receive higher royalties. With AuthorHouse I was receiving maybe 5% or 10% (at least that's how minimal it seemed... I'm talking, almost non existent after they take their chunk) but being Indie Published, I receive 70%.... 70% royalties!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's incredible. Did you know you can actually make money as an author?! I didn't... well until I went this route. I've made more the last 2 months than I have the last 8 years combined! So there you have it. An Indie Author is basically the coolest author you are ever going to meet. Why? Because several have said 'no' to traditional publishing companies. They've said 'no' to the self-publishing companies where it breaks the bank. And they've said 'yes' to mastering their skill and owning up to the challenge and responsibility of doing everything themselves! Booya! And please, do not make the mistake of assuming an Indie Author's work does not measure up to a traditionally measured book. Don't give us the small head tilt and the stink eye... when honestly, sometimes the opposite is quite true. Janet Evanovich, Colleen Hoover, E.L. James, Stephen King, Edgar Allan Poe... all started out as Self/Indie Authors ... Mark Twain started his own printing company to put his books out! Not all books on the market become best-sellers, whether traditionally published or not, but let's not overlook those that do. Because those people paved the way for the Independent person... the Independent Author... to get their works out there. And some of them are incredibly amazing. I know because I've read them. So there ya go. I hope you feel fully educated. I hope the next time you see an Indie Author you can say, "Congrats on all your hard work." or "Wow, this is an incredible book." Nothing means more than someone loving our work! :)
62 Comments
6/11/2015 04:51:12 pm
Hi Katharine.
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James Jenkins
4/23/2016 12:26:32 pm
this is all well and good, but does not give any direction. How do I link up with Barnes and Noble, Ingram, what does and author need to do to set up files for print on demand? How does an Indie publisher create a print on demand file and and eBook file? The basics are missing to help an indie publisher start the journey after writing the book and having the manuscript edited. What is the next step?
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Katharine E. Hamilton
4/25/2016 09:39:25 am
Hi James!
Morris V. Maniscalco
1/30/2016 03:25:03 pm
Very interesting and informative article. Several questions not answered...Who are these INDIE presses and how much do they charge??
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Katharine E. Hamilton
4/25/2016 09:41:52 am
Hi Morris!
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Charles
3/17/2018 08:31:59 pm
Do you have to register a personal company name to publish independently??
Katharine E. Hamilton
3/18/2018 06:22:17 am
Hi Charles, 2/24/2016 02:31:18 pm
Katharine -
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Katharine E. Hamilton
4/25/2016 09:43:04 am
Thanks Jenny!
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Dorothy Copperman
7/3/2016 01:32:44 pm
Dear Katherine,
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Lisa Laurin
8/17/2016 12:18:17 pm
Hello, thank you for your article. I guess I still am a little confused at the differences.. Is indie vs. Self publisher basically about the profit?
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Katharine E. Hamilton
8/17/2016 02:10:30 pm
Hi Lisa,
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Thanks for this. I'm publishing my first novel in a month if everything works out right. (The first proof is on its way to me and I can't wait.) However, I started to read some comments online about how self-publishing via CreateSpace wasn't *really* being published and how you were only *really* published if Penguin or one of the big publishing houses stamped their approval on your work. I didn't want to believe these people, but it can be hard when you see multiple people saying the same thing.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
9/30/2016 01:41:09 pm
TechyDad,
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Darryl Armstrong
1/5/2019 11:25:36 am
Dear Techy Dad: I rarely respond to threads like this but you last paragraph was an echo of my sentiment. I am not oblivious to the feeling that fame and fortune in writing must bring, but in fact I am not able to stop writing. Regardless of how the world perceives my efforts, I will write until "they pry my cold, dead fingers from the keyboard." Thanks for your input as I feel validated by your comments of over two years ago. Maybe you can update me on your progress and how the indie-publishing process worked for you.
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Sorry, but the middle tier you are describing is properly called the "vanity press" market and should be labeled as "Danger Stay Away" they take the money up front, provide you with a book, and park it. Since they get paid thousands up front, they have little to no incentive to sell your book. They are more intent on luring in the next unwary traveler. I have author friends who have literally had to buy out contracts on books riddled with errors, that it was proven the publisher (Tate) introduced into their manuscripts that were not in the original submitted work. Not only that, but they had printed many more than they had sold, and insisted the authors buy every printed copy, even though they should have only been liable for their contracted amount. It's a devious and twisted world and very few companies in it are reputable at all, and I've yet to speak to a truly successful Vanity Press author.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
12/4/2016 08:07:35 pm
Hi Mark,
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4/3/2017 03:03:50 am
A perfect mirror Katharine E. Hamilton! Absolutely spot on article! My thoughts exactly!
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Katharine E. Hamilton
4/6/2017 02:32:42 pm
Lisa,
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Katharine, this is an informative article. The fact is that everyone needs an editor. Everyone. Needs. An Editor. And many of those who go the complete self-pub route (i.e., CreateSpace) could not only have used an editor, but also a designer. So when people choose to do it all their own (people who, unlike you, have no experience in the industry and have no experience as writers but have written a book) indie publishing should be what they turn to first (I'm talking about turning to an indie (independent publisher) for help, and yes, it costs money. But through the experience, these beginning writers will learn what it takes to get a book edited, finished, laid out, designed and up on the web. Writing a book is easy. Writing a good book is tough. Editing a book so that the writer's voice comes through and the document can be marketed head to head against other books on the web, is toughest by far. There's a blur of competition out there, and everyone's doing the same thing. I think indie publishing should be given more credit - we work hard for our authors.
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7/23/2017 07:57:35 am
Hi, thanks for this article. I am currently published through a subsidy publisher & have put in a lot of money with basically no return sales. I have 4 books in a series ready to go but I can't afford to pay a subsidy fee every time I want my book out there. I am considering going indie but I'm scared of the technical aspects of doing all of the online formatting myself. Are there step by step instructions out there? Is there an indie publishing for dummies guide? Or should I stick with my publisher? I feel so overwhelmed by it all. 😕
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Katharine E. Hamilton
7/23/2017 02:19:16 pm
Hi Laura,
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Maddie
8/28/2017 03:12:21 pm
Thanks for the informative article. Can you specify some indie publishers that allow you to have creative control and choose the things for the book?
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Katharine E. Hamilton
8/29/2017 07:14:28 am
Hi Maddie,
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Phillip
9/16/2017 12:35:46 am
very informative I really learned alot thanks for caring enough to write this blog...
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Katharine E. Hamilton
9/17/2017 10:59:08 am
Hi Phillip,
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Thanks for an informative article! Perhaps the other avenue is worth mentioning, even if it might add to the confusion, in which case I aplogise. The other type of 'Indie publishing' is when a writer places a book with one of the many independent presses out there. To seek a publisher does not necessarily mean the Big 5, but going with a smaller company does give the boost of editorial focus ( massively important ) graphics for cover etc, and some imput for marketing. Very often, the smaller houses offer far superior royalty rates too. If going this route and a contract is offered, check out with other house authors before signing, obviously, and if it's thumbs up then this can be a very viable route. I think it's true to say now that any of the routes are now valid, and the choice over which is becoming an increasingly qualitative decision.
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1/3/2018 01:50:25 pm
I have two self-published books. Presently, I've a brood of agencies contacting me, trying to get me to invest with them. Their angle; get me to pay them to go from being a self-published author to an independent author. It mostly sounds good, but what happens next, if I decide to go this route, once the hammer strikes? What then? I become an independent author..., and what do I do for my next work? Where does the process begin, how does it work in-between until the end result is accomplished and the book is live? Seems right now, I have two good books lost in the limbo of writings.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
1/4/2018 06:37:23 am
Hi there! Thanks for stopping by my website!
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Katharine E Hamilton
1/4/2018 06:40:15 am
Also, I would like to add... should you choose to independently publish, you will have the cost of an editor, should you choose to use one. I always recommend to pay the cost of a good editor. But again, it is minimal compared to what a vanity press charges for the same service. :)
Lorie
1/4/2018 07:03:05 am
You are independently, self- published -- some also refer to it as hybrid publishing - if you seek out the services of an independent publisher -- that means, you pay for design, layout, editing, cover design, placing the book on Amazon, and some marketing. Directly self-published if you do it all yourself through, say, Createspace.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
3/18/2018 06:34:39 am
Hi Lorie!
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Stephanie
4/24/2018 02:18:47 pm
I love your blog, thank you for sharing your experiences with us! I am going to indie publish because of it.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
4/25/2018 07:12:58 am
Hi Stephanie!
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Tammy
4/26/2018 05:56:35 am
Hello, I'm an indie author/publisher and my book is about to hit the market for sale, but I do not like that I couldn't find a reasonable and reputable editor. The editors that I contacted didn't edit non-fiction memoirs. Can you please recommend an editor? It's for a non-fiction autobiography.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
4/26/2018 06:49:45 am
Hi Tammy!
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Tammy
4/26/2018 08:17:59 am
I need proofreading for a little under 79,000 words.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
4/26/2018 10:31:56 am
Oh my! Yes, that is very steep... I would definitely shop around. I would never pay over $1000 for that length of work. Best of luck in your search!
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10/23/2019 08:57:00 am
Hi, Katharine. I’m glad you mentioned both editing and proofreading to Tammy’s earlier comment. Here is some more clarification about the difference.
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Tom Corson-Knowles, the author who founded Bestseller Ranking Pro, spent six long years trying to get a traditional publishing deal (and failed miserably). He finally decided to self publish his first book on Kindle in February, 2012.
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Hello Katherine,
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10/31/2018 06:07:09 am
Don't ever sign away your rights. I would do a search for the publisher under "writer beware" because what they're proposing sounds really suspicious to me. Good luck.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
10/31/2018 06:16:32 am
Hi Lorie,
Katharine E. Hamilton
10/31/2018 06:15:06 am
Hi Nina,
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Nina Pal
10/31/2018 08:01:34 pm
Thank you both for your support. I have ended my relationship with that pseudo publisher.
Darryl Armstrong
1/5/2019 12:02:35 pm
Katherine: Thanks for the clarification. I instinctively knew I either wanted to be published in the traditional route or indie-pub. Your article has left no doubt that vanity press is not an option. Garnering an agent through the query process is an exercise in futility akin to peeing in the ocean. Agents are awash in manuscripts and only tuned into already proven authors, who likely do not need to go scouting for representation. I understand the business of publishing and why the agents must find a book that will sell and make money for them, the publisher and lastly trickle down to the author. Having expressed a sense of empathy for the traditional method, it is in my best interest to learn the way through independent publishing and then focus on what matters the most to me: the writing. If someone wants to buy it-- fine. Your input has really helped me clarify what I want from my efforts. Thanks, from a neophyte.
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1/13/2019 02:45:37 am
As a new traditional publisher, I can attest to encouraging all forms of publishing! There is no perfect way; there is only the perfect way for you.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
1/13/2019 05:09:53 am
Hi Sherrill,
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Jennifer Jones-Bates
2/1/2019 09:40:42 am
I was offered a contract with Page Publishing but thank goodness I have done some research and am wanting to self publish. I have read a lot of the comments but guessing I would have to find someone to illustrate my book for the self publishing route? There were a couple of red flags with Page Publishing so am glad that I didn't go that route. Also I had a book published with Tate Publishing and they filed bankruptcy so that was not a good deal and a huge learning experience.
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3/20/2019 06:42:06 pm
Thanks for the info, I feel soooooooooo much better now, lol.... I did everything by myself for Around Seattle in 80 Dates - an Online Dating Journey.
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Frances Richardson
8/5/2019 06:33:58 pm
Dear Katherine,
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Susan
12/2/2019 10:35:09 am
Hi Katherine,
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Katharine E. Hamilton
12/2/2019 12:36:29 pm
Hi Susan,
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Zac
2/24/2020 05:06:56 pm
Thanks for this great post! I have been working on a manuscript for over four years now which I know is a significantly less amount of time than others.) Nevertheless, this manuscript started while I was working on my MFA in Fiction and was strong enough to actually earn that exceedingly expensive degree - but those three letters look so good after my name! Haha! At any rate, two years post-graduation of edits, revisions, rejections, and some great feedback from a few agents. I have really been considering the Indie route, but bombed in the past and am gun-shy, not to mention the fact that the director of my MFA program was very anti-anything-but-traditional-publishing and insisted that I distance myself from that previous work.
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Katharine E. Hamilton
2/25/2020 03:59:10 am
Hi Zac,
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Rohit Totlani
7/16/2020 11:59:59 pm
Hi, this seems very helpful and really cool. Thanks.
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2/15/2022 08:46:50 pm
Very much appreciated. Thank you for this excellent article. Keep posting!
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